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I think our thoughts are connected to the universe... like a drop of water in a ponds... our thoughts ripple across the [sign in to see URL] what we think about generally comes to be... maybe not as we intended... but if our thoughts are pure of hope and happiness for our intended purpose.. the results are generally in our favor... so yes i do pray... and i do get a chuckle now n again when a Christian or anyone from any other demonination offers a prayer for me... i'm asking what their intentions really are... but that is me.. I believe if we learn to control our thoughts aka... prayers.. we will live a much richer life... richer life meaning things go our way and we get what we want out of life...

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good thoughts there!

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dtaylor12 wrote:

I think our thoughts are connected to the universe... like a drop of water in a ponds... our thoughts ripple across the [sign in to see URL] what we think about generally comes to be... maybe not as we intended... but if our thoughts are pure of hope and happiness for our intended purpose.. the results are generally in our favor... so yes i do pray... and i do get a chuckle now n again when a Christian or anyone from any other demonination offers a prayer for me... i'm asking what their intentions really are... but that is me.. I believe if we learn to control our thoughts aka... prayers.. we will live a much richer life... richer life meaning things go our way and we get what we want out of life...

Blessed Be



That seems quite correct - the thoughts of the populace tangle up the entire world - If one is an empath, such random bouncing thoughts make life difficult. Without doubt, the control of thought makes life easier.

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What if our thoughts/prayers are the the universe? Are we really looking this the wrong way? Our ultimate goal is 'connecting to the universe', what if we ARE the universe? All things connected, could we be connected but our beliefs have us on the outside looking in?
What we are searching for is within us all, not something we can see our touch. All the tools are here on earth for us to reach our destination. All we have to do is look within.

I know it is easier said than done... we have to change our way of thinking. thats why i am here to help change that.

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David, that is a very interesting concept! It's actually something that we discuss at work. One of the theories floating around the lab is that "mass" is actually infinite. We just see the most dense part. So our bodies actually expand to the size of the universe and we ARE the universe. Therefore our internal thoughts are really not internal. It's a very interesting theory and I have a hard time with the math, but one of my colleagues is actively pursuing it.
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I personally don't believe in any actual deities at this point. I DO believe in energy and that we are able to tap into and direct some of that energy flow.


Saijen SilverWolf wrote:

[sign in to see URL] you're talking to someone who isn't aware that you are Pagan and they find that you are, as you discover they are Christian, either active or non, and all of a sudden they want to pray for you. How does that make you feel? What is your response?


As long as I believe their prayers are of good will, I welcome them. If I suspect their prayers are of a negative aspect, I either ignore them or block them (I do give a short "thanks" to be polite)


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[sign in to see URL] you believe Pagans pray? Why or why not?



Absolutely I believe Pagans pray! emoticon As I said above, I believe it's a way of tapping into the energy. Whether it's meditation, spellwork/rituals, a group or solitary, music ..... we all have our favored ways of tapping in depending on the circumstances at the time.
I am of the belief that this is what all faiths/practices do in their own individual way.
Hope that makes sense, I sound like a nut to myself sometimes emoticon
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It makes good sense Curious!
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I like to think that all prayers that are said with good intention and a good heart will reach whoever is out there to listen to them. And no such prayer is ever lost.

This kind of prayer would also never hurt anyone, no matter which religion the person saying it follows. It's a bit like Curious said, it's good energy, and that will always help.

If that prayer, however, is meant to manipulate, or make someone convert I doubt it's going to be effective for anyone. The intention behind that is egoistical because the person saying it is imposing his or her beliefs on someone else. This in essence turns the prayer into something without power. (Unless you want to link it to a black magic spell, but I don't believe many have the power to really make that work.)

Well, just my two cents here. emoticon

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Depends on the intent of the prayer. I had Christians pray that misfortune brought me back to God - so I did not react well to that one. Now on the same note I have Christians offer prayers when something was amiss in life - not that they wanted me in their fold but as support and some positive energy offered - which I accepted with much thanks.

I pray in the sense that I still talk to God/ess - the Divine and look for direction during the conversations - I think it can be helpful and calming to just have a "conversation" in my mind or close my eyes for a second and consentrate on God/ess/Divine.

There are some groups though wanting to "convert" the dead to their religion with graveside prayers, dunkens and more - that is really ticking some people off - I would be ticked off as a dead person - I think I would have to haunt them just for the sake of bugging them back for a little while. emoticon I think it shows disrespect for the dead to do that as well as for the living family that don't agree with it. If you decide to join some religion - taht is your choice but to bug the dead with the nonsense is goofy just like it is goofy to expect your family to join you - it is individual and no one should be forced or bugged into joining - not even in death.

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How the heck to you convert a dead person? Wouldn't that person have to agree to the terms of the religion in order to be converted??? (Yes, some denominations of the Christian faith actually have terms you have to agree with before you're allowed to join that particular church).

That being [sign in to see URL] they expect the ghost of said dead person to give their acceptance or something? Not sure I understand how on earth, heaven or hell (or where-ever) a dead body can be converted. [sign in to see URL] that point, it's just a body, right? The soul has already moved on?????

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