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Oh...Queeny hon..I didn't mean you...I meant the public in general!! emoticon I know you would never 'knock' anyone for wearing or not wearing makeup or anything else for that matter!!!! I may not do the muumuus, but yeah...bras and shoes are a 'no show' when I'm at home. emoticon and baggy is always good!!! The baggier the better in some things!!!

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Living without makeup is kind of interesting. The Frog wears none at all, and hasn't done for the eight years we have been married - we used it to disguise her, when I was protecting her from murderous intent, but she chose to forgo that when she was safe.

I hope all you ladies who wear bras realize that the single most devastatingly proven cause of breast cancer, is the wire, in the under-wire bras out there. It has lots to do with the shape of the wire, and radio waves... There is a ton of research done on this subject, but lots of it has been squashed by 'them' who don't like folk to know. . .

The second most proven cause, of course, is mammograms... but I am not allowed to say that.

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Son's fiance has never worn makeup, except when her Mom made her for like Sister's wedding and her Prom. But she and I see eye to eye on the uselessness of it for us.
But she has gorgeous skin and the most beautiful eyes, she does not need makeup.

And don't worry Muladzh...I DESPISE under-wires! emoticon Wear the all natural cotton, exercise bra...but even those I hate. emoticon I think my "hippy" years may be returning! emoticon

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I wish that the truth about the radio wave dangers from curved conductors was public knowledge - it is available if you search really hard for it, but clouded with malicious misinformation. Things that are proven to cause mammary gland tumors are all related to the radio wave damage - such things as under-wire bras, coil sprung inner spring mattresses, and other curved or coiled wires that come into close contact to breasts. A medical survey in Europe recently found that of over 350 subjects surviving mastectomies, all but a very few were in regular contact with the radio wave wire curves. The families of many who died, admitted that under-wires, and coil sprung bedding were used for a long time.

Just because it takes a long time to fry the tissue of the breast with radio waves, does not mean it should be ignored. If you wear curved wires, or sleep on coil springs, you are going to be close to amplified by transformer radio waves - just think how your cell phone works in the bedroom, or how the radio works - store radios carried on worker's belts, used often - the radio waves are all around, and they are now proven to damage. We can't do without the convenience of radio - I wouldn't be typing this, if not for radio, but I think people should know the dangers. I do NOT agree with the foolish rants of the unwary, that claim we all have to die of something, and that they are not going to worry about it. That is a very foolish attitude - Ostriches are often killed by the predator they hide from, by sticking their head out of sight. If there is a possible danger, why not avoid it.

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It also seems that when two factors are combined, breast cancer happens much more often. Those factors are: underarm shaving and using deodorants. The theory goes that some of the poison which kills the bacteria in the armpits can enter the body through those tiny wounds caused by shaving and then spread to the breasts through the lymph system. It sure makes a lot of sense to me.

Knowing this, I have chosen in favor of noses, as the other can be easily hidden from the eye. emoticon

Plus, I hate bras to the point of owning only two very comfortable ones that do not contain any wires, and going without them at home. I guess I should stock up a little on that variety, though. emoticon

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Interesting,Firle, I had not come across that one, but it makes sense - Frog doesn't shave anything (like most pagans of the old path) and we don't use chemical deodorants - to stop BO, use baking soda and water.. Non toxic, can't hurt, and works very well.

About under-arm shaving. It has only been popular for about 60 years, before that it was only showgirls and prostitutes that did it. Our Path has never suggested it, and it goes without saying, that the Goddess does not own a razor. I know of less serious complaints that occur with shaving - I will research the cancer link, and make loud noises when I have done so.

Finding safe bras is a chore - we check out stores whenever we are in them, and very rarely find anything anymore - Frog has a stash of ten bras,each lasting about two years, so she is set for a while, but we still need to find more. She tried making her own, but they were uncomfortable.

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I don't wear a wired bra for the simple reason that I'm built funny and the wires hurt like hell. And now, most 'wires' in bras are not wire at all, they are flexible plastic, BUT, they still poke me and hurt like hell, so, I STILL don't wear them. The bras that I use have extra elastic and material at the sides for support...I'm a busty gal and need the support from somewhere(just NOT from a wire/plastic). The only metal is the hooks and eyes at the back.
Muladzh, try looking online for bras for the Frog. Or, you may want to consider a catalog such as Vermont Country Store. You can find them online as well, I believe. They carry old-timey stuff as well as some newer type things, but it's all hard-to-find things. The athletic/sports bras that Queeny mentioned are probably about the safest in terms of no metal anywhere. They are pull on...over the head type..and actually not too bad. I'm just so large up top they don't do me much good. Not to mention, a lot of them I can't wear some of my favorite tops with a athletic/sports bra.

As for shaving, I'm not sure I could totally go without shaving. If I know I don't have to go anywhere or be around anyone, I don't worry about it much, and I don't worry about my legs much at all in the winter cause they're covered up, but if I am going out somewhere...to eat, the store, etc, I will shave my legs and underarms. And I'll shave more during these next 2 weeks while I'm gone than I would if I were going to be staying at home. I've admitted here before that I am a bit vain, plus I can't quite put myself outside of the social norm. Been there for way too long, I guess. Old habits die hard!

Firle, I once had a neighbor from Germany. Her sister had come to visit and she didn't shave. Since that time, I have come to realize that it's much more accepted in Europe than in the States for a woman to go unshaven. It's a shame that we're so conditioned that we can't just be as we were meant to be. I have to say that, I do have a choice and I'd probably be better off to STOP shaving, but I simply can't make myself stop. I've thought about it several times. It's a pain in the rear, it can get expensive, etc, etc, etc, but I was brought up to believe it's a necessary 'evil' that women just have to endure. I never did understand why women have to shave their armpits, but men don't. I've HEARD it's a health issue...but if that's the case..men sweat under their arms more than women for the most part, so would that not be MORE of a health risk if that were the true reason? I just don't get it. I wish I were like you and the Frog...able to get past society and live more naturally, but it's just not in me. emoticon

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I heard from a girl I helped some years ago, who lives in Washington state, about a circumstance that could have been much worse.

She does not shave her armpits, though does wax her legs. She was wearing a knee length skirt one day, with woolen jacket over tank top, and in a non too nice area of Seattle. The worst thing happened, and she was abducted by a sex offender, who dragged her into a house, and ripped off her clothing, whilst exposing himself. He ripped off her skirt and panties, then set about the jacket.

She told me he was aroused until the jacket came off, exposing her hairy armpits - immediate turn off for the rapist, who made disgusted noises, was no longer aroused, and ran away. Leaving my friend somewhat shaken, with damaged clothing, but unharmed.

Why society should be able to dictate how we all look is crazy.

All of the evidence for health risks come with shaving, not leaving it to grow, though people will always say it is disgusting and people should shave. If I were female I would not shave, and if people didn't like it, I would make very sure they saw it all the time.

Go on, Saijen, be the Silverwolf, and leave the beautiful hair alone.

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Saijen, it's changing here. Shaving used to be rare, but now they call it "the natural look" and look down on it. The influence of America, I fear ... emoticon Still, I believe that more women do not shave here than fashion mags would want us to think.

I simply decided that for me, sleeveless is out. Fortunately, our summers are gentle enough that I can do that easily. I admit thinking about permanent removal of that hair, though ... The pressure of society is very real.

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That is a very scary statement, Firle. That women are so coerced into fashion demands is terrible. Particularly as it leaves damaged skin, and rampant bacteria.
The hair in hairy places on the body is there for a purpose - it allows for ventilation of the area. The healthy root system, as apposed to unhealthy scratched off system as in shaving, gives off oils that are naturally anti bacterial, protecting the body, be it armpits, or leg pits. emoticon

Society is a very scary place, methinks.

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