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I love your description of yourself too. emoticon
I guess I'm somewhere in the middle of that road too. I can "tune in" to Nature and to people (often times a bit too much). Saijen has told me I'm an [sign in to see URL] tend to believe her as others have also said [sign in to see URL]'m still just being me, but a happier me. And I tell people I'm [sign in to see URL] just started to happen a few months ago. Before I was timid about saying so.

Oh and [sign in to see URL] even told my Mom I was Pagan when she asked me about my "necklace"..
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Of course I gave her the VERY shortened and VERY non frightening version. emoticon She actually did not freak [sign in to see URL] of fact she either accepted it or completely went [sign in to see URL] she also asked no questions.. emoticon

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[sign in to see URL]'s a little something to read on Empathy and Empaths

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I love your [sign in to see URL] I'm glad that your Mom asked about it, and was able to handle the answer you gave her. I bet she didn't ask questions because she's not sure what questions to [sign in to see URL] time, I bet she starts asking a few here and there. I'm glad you started out gently. Too bad I can't do this with my Mom! I'd get the 3rd degree and be told how wrong I am and how I need to get back right with God and yada yada yada!!!!!

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Queeny, I'm so proud of you that you told your mom! Wow, that's great. And ever greater that she decided to ask questions rather than just turn away.

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Saijen, thanks for those links. Seems I'm either a natural empath who can control her ability to some degree, or I'm not one. emoticon

I find that I mostly have the listening ability (people tend tell me things they never told anyone else), and the desire to be alone more often than others. And I'm really relieved to have no TV because I can no longer handle the pictures. In fact, I had trouble the other day to read the Brothers Lionheart by Astrid Lindgren, although that's a kid's book. emoticon

But I don't do the "getting sick" part, at least not with family or friends. I have struggled with taking in someone else's illness and then working hard to conquer it in myself. I do try to consciously avoid that now.

Anyway, that was interesting and helpful. emoticon

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I'm glad they helped, Firle. As I went through the list in the second link, I wasn't totally sure I fully agreed with all of it, but for the most part, I do.

In #[sign in to see URL], not CONSTANTLY, but if the emotion is strong enough, it can bowl me over. And it's not just people, but also plants and animals.

#[sign in to see URL], DH got sick after eating his [sign in to see URL] up. When I woke up, I was SO nauseated, for no [sign in to see URL] we were over 300 miles apart, so it wasn't something we ate! I got up several hours after he did. So, yeah!

#[sign in to see URL] it can be rather [sign in to see URL] it's not always during the BAD stuff. I am also this way with happy things. I cry over the good and the [sign in to see URL] just the bad. DH makes fun of [sign in to see URL] he's learning that it's just part of me.

#4 ...No, I don't ALWAYS know what someone is trying to say to [sign in to see URL] more times than not, I can tell if someone is lying to me, and usually I can tell if a person isn't quite telling me all of what they really want to say. I have a problem with wanting to 'save the underdog', regardless if I feel that person may not appreciate it, or may want to cause me harm. I am forever looking for the good in [sign in to see URL] I do, rarely, get my gut kicked for my [sign in to see URL] I'd rather try and them take it out on me, than not to try and someone else get [sign in to see URL] least I did save someone some trouble somewhere.

#5 see above! LOL

#[sign in to see URL] the [sign in to see URL] Walmart, grocery store, wherever I [sign in to see URL] online!

#[sign in to see URL] and I've often wondered if some of the illnesses I have dealt with were not a result of me not knowing how to rid myself of things I've unintentionally taken from others. It seems that as long as I'm home alone, I'm fine, but let me get out among people for any real length of time and I end up sick. You've all even witnessed this from me. Me thinking it was just overdoing while in Alabama or some [sign in to see URL] reading this, I have to wonder!!.

It is interesting to kind of delve deeper into [sign in to see URL] I think we have several Empaths here. My sister is also an Empath, I do believe.
When our Dad died, we were at the funeral home the day of visitation, and I was walking rapidly OUT of the chapel. She caught up to me, realizing something was wrong and said to me "The energy is not very good in here right now, is it?" She not only could feel it herself, she knew what I was 'running' from. I told her I had to get out of the [sign in to see URL] or I was going to explode. She asked if she could come with [sign in to see URL] course I said YES. We were both so overwhelmed with everyone else's feelings we couldn't even deal with our own. To this day, I don't think either of us has fully dealt with our feelings. At my Uncle's funeral, almost a year later, I was once again overwhelmed, and lost it while talking to my cousin (the oldest son of the Uncle)...he wrapped me up in his arms and we stood there crying together. Just typing this has me in tears! Didn't realize how overwhelming it still [sign in to see URL]! emoticon

[sign in to see URL] to happier topics!! In another [sign in to see URL] another forum!

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Saijen,

I know exactly this feeling of getting overwhelmed - but then I shut up inside. I close it all into a tiny knot inside - which makes me unfeeling and like being on autopilot until it's over and I can come back to myself.

I don't like it. I found out about a year ago I can do this whenever something unpleasant happens, and I often do it unconsciously and very quickly. It works, but it cuts myself off from myself and my inner me - which is too high a price to pay.

I'm still learning to recognize when I go into self-protection mode. emoticon

And I'm working on not doing it, on letting myself feel and work through things. Very hard to do, especially as I believe I've been doing it habitually for a long time in my life.

So I'm still not sure I'm an empath. I always thought so, and I wanted to be one, probably to feel special. But now ... no longer sure. emoticon

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If you have this feeling of being overwhelmed, and you have learned to shut yourself down, I'd bet you ARE an [sign in to see URL] the overwhelming aspect doesn't hit just [sign in to see URL] those who are very sensitive to [sign in to see URL] to be that sensitive, you have to have some Empath [sign in to see URL] if not all of them. I think there are different levels of [sign in to see URL] that's one reason I kind of disagree with that second [sign in to see URL]'s kind of like not all psychics can do the same things that all the others [sign in to see URL] can do more than others. I think it's the same with [sign in to see URL], don't discount yourself just yet. Explore it some more, to see where you are.

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Thanks, Saijen. It helps to talk it over with someone. emoticon

I believe I use empathy a lot when I'm doing EFT, but in a different way. I shut myself out - mostly - and focus entirely on the client. And then I just say what pops into my mind and feel what feelings come up. (I say the sentences and tap on myself, and have the clients copy what I do.) And what I say is so often spot on they are surprised. And it's not years of experience - that helps - but it's almost entirely spontaneous. It's like getting help from a higher source.

I also often know exactly what people want to say, even if they come out with something rather strange. I love that aspect of empathy.

You have a good point: I'll try to work on empathy when it feels safe to do so.

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What an interesting thread.
I feel that to completely understand and be comfortable in a Path, it is very important to hear the opinions and wisdom of any who came before you, and those who trod a different path. If we would only follow the narrow path of inexperience, our lives would be sadly missing the amazing gifts of the experienced practitioner. Often I refrain from commenting on threads, because I can do something easily others talk wistfully about, or wonder about.. There is Much more out there, that if ignored puts you into to mass of unable people. Everybelief has something mystical about it, so studying any of them will give depth to our being, expanding our abilities with our experience.

One of the most powerful tools in my 'box' has to be Empathy: this is not just a means of understanding emotions or mental state of others, with it we can see into the minds of troubled people, see the truth of a statement or comment, understand motives, and 'hear' the thought malice of others towards us. Studying empathy is the first step, but beware. It will totally RUIN movies for you - not only will you feel the pain of the character falling off something, but you will read the state of mind of the actor. This makes for boring movies all the time. Empathy often makes us turn off a new movie after five minutes because we can't comfortably watch it.
So study is a good idea, rather an essential idea if you want to go past the first stages of 'magik'and on into to fun stuff. Developing empathy opens to door everything else. Can't feel the energy tracks as you pass through them? Empathy allows us to do that. Can't feel spirits as they pass by? Empathy allows that too. When asked by students what the first thing to achieve has to be, I tell them that without Empathy, you have severely restricted your potential.
Think about what happens in an empathic contact. What is really going on? When empathically linked to something, information is passing through air to you. A telepathic link between you and your subject, be that a person, animal, object or energy, without which manipulation cannot take place.

Things to encompass in one's studied should include Hindu Mysicism, ancient Animistic beliefs, natural healing, Alchemy, Scrying, Astrology, Aromatherapy, Reflexology, how to make energy balls, etc.. the list is pretty well endless.

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Wow, thank you, Muladzh!

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I no longer enjoy movies. I'm not at the point where I can read the actor's mind, but I don't like to watch violence and drama anymore. And yes, I feel the pain. emoticon So I live just fine without the TV.

I will study empathy. Thanks again for the help.

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Muladzh, you made a comment on reading the malice thought of [sign in to see URL]'s actually kind of funny when a thought happens, even when it's intended in fun.....

for instance. I'll say or do something, while with someone. It's just BEGGING for someone to make a smart remark, but I'll come out with... "Oh, shut up ***" and they're like...'But, I didn't say anything!" my response is..'You didn't have to, I heard you think it!" (or, I heard your thought)...and I can usually tell them word for word what they were thinking. It has nothing to do with knowing that person so well that I'd know what they'd [sign in to see URL] can actually HEAR that though.

I'm still learning as an Empath (I will be learning till the day I draw my last breath), but yes, I can tell when energy is different in places, I can tell when there are spirits close [sign in to see URL]'s as if the entire atmosphere changes. Doesn't scare [sign in to see URL] rather welcome it. As for movies, I still watch movies, and do my best to shut myself [sign in to see URL] some things still get through. Particular scenes that are extremely sad or horrific, and [sign in to see URL] the same goes for extreme joy. I can watch an episode of Extreme Makeover Home Edition and cry my eyes out. An Empath not only feels the bad, they also feel the [sign in to see URL] their entire being rejoices for those who are benefitting. That's one reason I don't block [sign in to see URL] I'd miss out on the GOOD [sign in to see URL] I'll suffer the bad, in order to enjoy the good

Firle, to know the exact words to use in your EFT, when the person hasn't really told you much about what's up, is a form of [sign in to see URL]'s a wonderful trait to have for your type of work!!! Keep it up!! emoticon

[sign in to see URL] you SO much for your insights, too. It helps me, as well, to know what other directions I need to look at to further myself on this path. emoticon

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