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[sign in to see URL] 'friends' to your candle is fine. You have to put what feels right to you. I was only giving you [sign in to see URL]'s up to you what you truly feel needs to be etched onto the candle.

And [sign in to see URL], you hit it right on the head! It's like I said elsewhere, sometimes it's the small things that matter the [sign in to see URL] need to always try to look at the big picture. Look more closely at the smaller things around it. Once you see the small things, then the bigger picture comes into sharper view. I don't think you're trying to over-analyze, I just think you're trying too hard to take it all in at one [sign in to see URL] you've not already read your message on FB about the [sign in to see URL] so and I think you'll understand what I mean. Sometimes, you gotta walk before you [sign in to see URL], if you're running, you fail to see SO much of the good things around you. You are so loved here, and I'm very glad you feel that. emoticon emoticon emoticon

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Oh girlfriend, I did read the "TURTLE" description and I understand. And thank [sign in to see URL] very, very much. emoticon

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Exchange some months old, perhaps moribund. But I can't resist. I am taken by Queeny's honest question.

There is a famous mid 19th C poem that caused something of a religious seizure among poets, first, then among other artists. It darn near amounted to a revival of the big tent variety. An entire generation responded to it. Influence manifested well into the 20th C. Correspondences by Charles Baudelaire. The link:

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I am forever coming back to the poem. One exigest says that, for Baudelaire, in the phenomenon (of nature) hides the noumenon. I can go with that. It tallies with my experience. It tallies with a certain record too of religious experience going at least as far back as the paleolithic cave painters, all of whom were priest/priestess artists. For lack of a better word, words can diminish, I call it the nature mystic's experience. But there is something about this order of experience to reckon with. It cannot be explained. Pascal maybe said it best when he said: The heart has reasons reason cannot understand. Something like that.

Can't know what your Way amounts to, or its features and contours. Long since stopped trying to explain to myself my own. Explanations sometimes can amount to pins pinning something beautiful, but dead, to a Riker mount. There is something I think I do know. A Jungian thinker said there are two archetypes, two only, of the religious instinct. The transcendent and the immanent. One looks outward for the holy, say, to sky gods and desert gods and burning bushes and heaven. The other looks inward, even to inside nature herself. Which brings me full circle, back to Baudelaire's poem. I've yet to meet a pagan who does not look inside nature herself for what is holy.

I admire you your questioning(s). Always speaks to intellectual integrity.

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Exchange some months old, perhaps moribund. But I can't resist. I am taken by Queeny's honest question.



I admire you your questioning(s). Always speaks to intellectual integrity.


Thank you Tere, it was an honest and open question. I'm pretty new to this Path. Well, let me restate that. I'm new in so far as I am admitting to myself that I am on "a" Path, it is ever changing [sign in to see URL] definitely Nature based.
I now know that a Path picked me many, many years ago. That Nature saved my life for some reason, only the Goddess knows as of yet. But since that night almost 32 years ago, I've been wandering and wondering. It was not until my own Son told me of his Wiccan/Pagan ways several years ago, that I even knew of what and where I might find answers.
 I've asked many questions, many places and most often am laughed at or sneered at for asking such a question. "How could I even think that I needed more proof!" "Was 'it' not proven to you definitely enough"....and on and on.....
But not [sign in to see URL] they post as you did. In a gentle, caring way. Opening my eyes even [sign in to see URL] you did with that incredible 'writing' which I have book marked and though read through once, am certain I will be reading many more times to absorb it as much as possible.
Forgive me if I sound a bit daft, I'm not what you would call 'well schooled' and many of the words you used, I will actually have to 'google' to find out exactly what you said to me. Forgive me my ignorance if you will. But thank you for answering in a gentle manner a question that which I asked from a pure heart. emoticon

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Queeny, you and I have something in common, common ground. Somewhere you say either you dropped out of high school or went no further. Something like that. So did I. I was graduated in that year of '69, I think they call it a social promotion now. But I flunked. I got my diploma only because the school didn't want me around for another year. I was a political activist, age 17, in a southern, racist school. I did learn one thing in school: how to read. An auto-didact here.

"A formal education is meant for those who cannot learn on their own." John Dewey of the Dewey decimal fame said that.

I love the story of how you found your Way, or Path, by way of your son. That strikes me as extraordinarily special. I found the Witches Way about the time my daughter was born. I think there is a connection. I've never known a more moony girl than she is. I lost her to schizophrenia, the moon's back side that never sees the sun. Now for another poem.

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James Joyce also lost a daughter to madness. Is not the poem beautiful and tender in the way he sets her immortal? So much of the Goddess tucked safely inside poetry.

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I did graduate High [sign in to see URL], D+ and like you I think they just let me go, to get me out. I do not believe my teachers liked many of my questions, most could not answer. And so I was drawn to 'day dream' staring out the window at the nature beyond. And I wrote 'poetry'....words mostly, because I was not taught "proper" poetry writing techniques.
It was how I kept my [sign in to see URL] I lost that way with words, when I left home and alcohol became my true love.
I did come about this path through my [sign in to see URL] of whom I was not supposed to ever have. Physical [sign in to see URL] Son had his own reason to chose me.
That is an incredible poem and I 'feel' the pain you have in your statement: "I lost her to schizophrenia"....but are we not all a bit lost in one way or another?
I too am one who feels the draw of the moon exceptionally strong. Like here, [sign in to see URL] Moon is full and I feel strong, awake and in tune with all around me. When she is gone, I feel tired, and tend to wander a bit...


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Yeah, it is a great poem. Every year, in December, I buy a Lunar calendar that comes out of Boston, has since the 70's high day of the Neo-Pagan movement. Its publisher is a witch. I buy one for myself, one for a woman if I am seeing someone at that time of the year, and one for my daughter. One year a few years ago I was a little late. In a January phone conversation my daughter says, 'You are sending me my calendar, right?' That is what you call moony and insistent about it too.

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Terreson, I love the poems you posted the links to! Thank you.

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In a January phone conversation my daughter says, 'You are sending me my calendar, right?' That is what you call moony and insistent about it too.



Yes, it [sign in to see URL] it's also something that is 'normal' for [sign in to see URL] she can RELY on. emoticon



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