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I was reading this, and suddenly the words "Discovery Channel" popped into my mind. I know that won't work, either, but I wanted to share the laugh.

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I would still like something about "discovering" in the topic name, because it's much more fun than studying.

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[sign in to see URL] get it now.
So, 5 crazy bitches and one wild wizard would not work either? emoticon
KIDDING!!! emoticon emoticon


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[sign in to see URL] came up with a couple of names...

Intuitive Education (or Enlightenment)

just plain ole Enlightenment

Insightful Colloquy(means conversation or debate)

Enlightened Colloquy

Trust me, won't hurt my feelings a bit if y'all don't like any of them. I was kinda grasping at straws last night, playing in an online Thesaurus.



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TexasMadness wrote:

I mean, how do you not just fall into autopilot about life? For example, many Christians attend church every week. It's very easy for that to be on there minds on a regular basis.

How do you "be Pagan" on a regular basis - especially for those who are solitary? And not just those that are well defined Pagans here. How do you keep to your spiritual ways, whatever they are?

Me? I don't...

Sigh. Need inspiration! I'm not a ritual person but I'm so busy these days and the weather is crumby so I don't even sit in relax in nature all that often. I'm feeling disconnected!



Unfortunately the only time I really feel connected to Nature is when its rainy, windy and foggy and we live in Las Vegas so that doesnt happen often, I want to go home to Oregon, I think that would really help me!

There are some days I feel very Pagan and all is well in the world but because I am a Naturalist, my Atheist side rears its head sometimes and fills me with doubts-like, you barely do Rituals anymore, why call yourself Pagan? You dont believe in 99% of what is termed Traditional Paganism, why not just embrace Spiritual Atheism? [sign in to see URL] makes what I do spiritual? Is lighting candles and Incense spiritual, is reading or listening to Native American music spiritual?

But I am always able to convince myself that Atheists dont believe that The Universe is Sacred or Holy or that most Atheists engage in spiritual activities like Prayer or spirit dancing eve though it seems that I dont do it as often as I used to.

But Yeh, Its hard sometimes to stay on this Path.
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Terry, it's even harder when you're pretty much solitairy. It was so easy when I was a member of a coven. We met once a week for classes and ritual, we'd have open rituals for the Sabbats, and we'd have a blast. I am currently a first degree initiate into British Traditional Wicca, but our coven, by mutual agreement, disbanded over a year ago, due to a variety of [sign in to see URL] being, our HPS had to go back to work full-time and couldn't devote the time she needed to prepping for the classes, teaching them, plus leading the weekly rituals and such. [sign in to see URL] were only 3 of us, and the HP (who was the HPS's husband) who generally was not in attendance unless what we were doing called for a male participant. One of the things that I had issues with in this situation, was the fact that we HAD to memorize things like The Charge Of The Goddess, and certain chants, and other such things. I have a memory problem, plus, I saw no reason for needing to have to memorize some of this stuff. I had moved away from organized [sign in to see URL] for a varitey of reasons (I grew up Southern Baptist, but have also been Pentacostal Holiness and Assembly of [sign in to see URL] Baptized when I was 8yrs old)and feel that this form of Wicca was too structured, even for me. [sign in to see URL] find myself in a more solitairy situation once again. I don't do regular [sign in to see URL] what most consider ritual. I feel that any form of meditation can be considered a ritual of sorts, as is listening to certain types of music that put you in a state of comfort. I don't think ritual always has to involve [sign in to see URL], just 'being' is all that is required. As always, this is just how I [sign in to see URL] may not be in line with another's thoughts.

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I've been thinking a lot about rituals lately and I guess I'm intimidated by them. Saijen, I found your post about your experience with a coven very interesting. Sometimes I wish to be with others, but I have a problem going along with others. I can get along, but I don't want to go along, if that makes any sense. I guess I feel like I don't really know what I'm doing, don't want to tap into something I don't fully understand. And I feel a little silly lighting candles and such around my husband, who for the most part humors me and ultimately is probably fine with it, but I'm so self concious. I would probably benefit from just doing something, so long as it feels right, even if it's just a little thing every day.
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I tried a ritual once, quite a while ago, following the instructions in a very lovely book (albeit in German). I was mostly curious, didn't quite believe it would work, and had no real plan in case it did work.

I drew the circle, called on the cardinal powers - and they came! Dear gods, I was so scared of all that power around me that I simple thanked them for coming and said good bye! (Which was something the book suggested.)

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Better safe than sorry, I thought. I've never tried again, I felt I was playing with forces WAY beyond my ken.

What I often do is to send energy somewhere, or to someone. Or I light candles and meditate. That feels safe and comfortable.

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Rebecca, I understand you perfectly when you say you GET along, but you don't always want to GO along. That's kind of how I felt. I got along great with the others in the coven, but I felt like I was back in an organized religious environment by having to learn this, and do that a certain way, and so on. I miss the togetherness, just not the extreme structure.
I also totally understand about your self-consciousness. I'm the same way. I won't do any ritual type stuff in front of my [sign in to see URL] makes fun. And, while he doesn't mean any harm by it, it's a bit disconcerting. Thankfully, he loves candles as much as I do, so we have candles lit almost all the time here, but that doesn't mean much if you don't "do" other [sign in to see URL]'s simply a lit candle. It's hard to find (and [sign in to see URL] found) that balance when you're a solitairy in a marriage/partnership where the partner isn't following a similar path. I have come to learn that ritual, for me, can be something as simple as sitting in my favorite chair, eyes closed, listening to a calming CD. Or, playing my dulcimer (when the strings aren't broke!!lol), or learning to play my penny whistle. I LOVE drumming and I have a Nigerian Talking [sign in to see URL] that, too, can be very ritualistic. Ritual doesn't have to be casting a circle, calling whomever, and performing a [sign in to see URL] least, not in my book emoticon

Firle, it can be quite scary when you're really not expecting things to go as they say they [sign in to see URL] they actually DO go that way LOL. It sounds like you handled that situation very well. I do hope you remembered to close your circle after you thanked them for coming, and told them good-bye. If one DOES cast a circle for ritual, the circle needs to be fully closed when you're done. If not, it can allow negative energies to flow into that space, and take up residence. NOT a good thing!



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Yes, I did close the circle, I made sure of that. And I wound everything down after I let them go again.

Phew!

But yes, these days, my spiritual "work" is drawing my Tarot card every morning, keeping a normal diary, a success diary (on the computer), and a gratefulness diary. It's reading books about inner growth, and doing my EFT.

I don't think it's specifically Pagan, it's probably more along the lines of spiritual exercise.

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Good that you closed everything down. It sounds like an almost frigtening, but also exciting experience.

I'm not extremely ritualistic right now, but that is something I want to work toward getting back to, to some degree. I miss doing 'works' and taking a more hands-on approach. Hopefully, with the warmer weather, I'll feel more like doing some of these things.

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