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Ok folks, our first book group discussion! This is a general discussion of The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton. If a certain subject comes up that needs more in depth, exclusive examination, we can split that off into another thread (ack, runboard - get the split feature!).

Here's a %20Biology%20of%[sign in to see URL]]super brief overview of the book.

I will start the conversation rolling with simply posting my impressions of the book. Hopefully we can get a good discussion going!

Coming from a science background - more specifically physics - I did not feel that Lipton made the quantum physics argument he was trying to. Researchers have been long at work trying to find NON-TRIVIAL quantum functions in biology. The studies he cites are all about TRIVIAL quantum biology which is something that everyone expected and doesn't prove anything 'funny' is going on.

I also think his representation of Darwin vs. Lamark is harsh and incorrect in several places. He portrays Darwin and his early theory in a cold way that does not reflect the profound changes it made on science then and today. I'm also not sure he is applying Lamarkian theory correctly, but not a biology person, I can't say for certain.

That said, I do really like his message. I read several of the studies on epigenetics and found them to be fascinating, if not nearly over my head. I think the science could possibly follow what Lipton is trying to portray here - it's just not there yet.

His basic message - that we have a programmed subconscious that could be in battle with our free-willed conscious - is very intriguing. I want to explore it more. I've declared March to be "Good Thoughts" month and am going to try to delve into some of my programming to see what changes I can make for a more positive approach on life.

What are your first thoughts?
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First thoughts for me were.... (we need a yawning emoticon! lol) I was bored silly with this book, and still have not managed to finish it, although I am still reading. I am so NOT a scientific person, so all the science was hard for me to overcome.

He makes some good points on man-made medications and how something created to help with one thing can actually create more problems than what it's supposed to be helping, and that most medications are only to cover up symptoms, rather than to effectively 'fix' the actual problem. I agree with that whole heartedly.

Like you, Texas, I am somewhat intrigued by the subconscious 'ramblings' that can have an effect either positively or negatively on our conscious selves, and would also like to work more on that aspect of myself. It's funny, because I started the 'I'm Thankful For' thread before we even knew about this [sign in to see URL] it was started in an effort to not only create a more positive atmosphere here on the board, but also within ourselves, by focusing on the good/positive things in our lives, rather than the negative [sign in to see URL], if done often enough could actually change some of our subconscious behaviors for the better, improving our overall life and health.

I will try to finish the book, even though we have already gotten to this point. I'm more than half-way through, but still have a ways to go.


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I was intrigued with Bruce Lipton and his thoughts after watching an interview with him.

He stated that the subconscious is "like a taperecorder". Yelling at it doesn't change what it is playing. emoticon The only way to change the subconscious is to erase the old tape and record a new one. And then he said (this was in an EFT series) that EFT is one excellent tool to erase that old subconscious recording and replace it with a new one.

Of course, I then had to read the book where he explains how belief and conscious changing of one's thoughts can actually change the biology of one's body.

Saijen, hang in there. I find this book fascinating, but the first science chapters were a bit of a bore.

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Oh you two! The science chapters were my favorite part! emoticon

Firle, I felt like the one lacking thing was a more clear message on HOW to change your tape recorder. He does touch on the subject, but this is certainly not a "how to be happier" type book. In a way, I liked that he left it open for an individual to work on. That's something that I can get into - figuring out what works best for ME rather than following a "one size fits all" approach that rarely works for weirdos like me.
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Well, I did love his olive sandwich! emoticon And even my scientist sister who is a cell biologist loved the sandwich!

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I am to the parts that Texas said was where 'the fun starts'.... I'm sorry, I've not seen anything fun yet! LOL. Sadly, I have to say that this is a book that will most likely find it's way to the used book store. I did recommend it to a cousin of mine who is extremely scientific, and I think he'd enjoy the book. It just is not for me.



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Saijen, I am sorry that you spent money on a book that didn't offer anything to you. emoticon Hope you can get a good price for it.

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Firle, it's not a total [sign in to see URL] do want to work on 'reworking' my subconscious mind so that maybe I can feel better and have more energy. There are some things in the book that I CAN grasp, just not a whole lot! LOL. I'm hoping that deeper in the book, it actually gives suggestions on HOW to change some things, but from Texas' comment "I felt like the one lacking thing was a more clear message on HOW to change your tape recorder." I'm fearing that's not going to be the case. But [sign in to see URL] one sees isn't always the same thing another [sign in to see URL], who knows.

I don't intend to give up on it, but I know it will take me a bit to finish it, but it's not a book I would re-read. I may, if not take it to the book swap-shop, send it to my cousin, who is an extremely scientific person, and may enjoy this.

Who's to say that the current book wont' fall into the same catagory? LOL. You don't learn if you don't [sign in to see URL] if it's things you find you don't like. There is ALWAYS something you can garner from a book, even if it's just one sentence that helps you along your path. So [sign in to see URL] was not a waste!

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