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EtPP: Making a Personal Connection with Divinity


This discussion is about Chapter 2 of Exploring the Pagan Path. The title is "Making a Personal Connection with Divinity" and it is written by Freya Aswynn, a follower of Norse traditions.

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TexasMadness wrote:

I thought chapter 2, "Making a Personal Connection with Divinity", was utter crap. I'd be happy to go into details when I have my book and notes in front of me.




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Chapter 2 was written, apparenlty, with the expressed feeling that ALL who seek a Pagan path must also seek a diety of some [sign in to see URL] God/dess or some such. I felt that was a bit presumptious on the parts of the contributors to that chapter.





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I didn't think chapter 2 was overly presumptuous about finding a personal deity. I know I'm in the tiny minority not having that. In fact, I usually *like* to read descriptions of how to connect with deity because it gives me ideas of things to try. I think it was more that the author set out "in stone" the way a deity is perceived, interacts with the physical realm and should be worshipped/connected with. I didn't feel there was much leeway on doing things in the usual free-form spirit of paganism. Also, I thought the style/message was kind of metaphysical mumbo-jumbo in general.


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I have been thinking more about this and I'm wondering if I'm actually being a bit too critical.

The author does say that this is her personal view of things. I can't argue against that. But after saying that, she does present it as cold, hard fact.

Also, in the general discussion thread, I lament that there is not much other-than-Wicca in the book. Perhaps Freya's point of view is very common amongst those that follow Norse traditions and I just think it sounds hokey because I'm unfamiliar with it. I wish I knew an Asatru who had read the book!

And one more thought occurred to me. I'm starting to think it's less about the material she presented and more about the way she presented it. She does talk a lot about how your connection to deity is very private and personal. On the other hand, the way she presents her connection to Wodan sounds like bragging to me. I suppose it would have been a large omission had she not spoken of her own experiences, but it rubbed me the wrong way.

All in all, I suppose she just came off as egotistical, full of woo-woo and simply not to my liking. emoticon
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TexasMadness wrote:
All in all, I suppose she just came off as egotistical, full of woo-woo and simply not to my liking. emoticon



I found that to be the case for me in several areas. A bit of 'fluff'.

What got me was the part about the '"sister" soul who has been mystically married to Baldur for some time.' To me, that really smacks of obsession on the part of the "sister" soul more than a person/diety connection.

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"...in my correspondence course, students are asked to "Heil Sunna" at the four times of the day." Like, I'm going to get up at dawn to 'Heil' anyone/thing, then stop what I'm doing in the middle of the day ("[sign in to see URL] on I have to stop and do my Heil Sunna")...and, yeah, gonna let my supper burn while I 'Heil' at [sign in to see URL], oh sure, either get out of bed at midnight (or in my case, stop whatever I'm doing) to go 'tend to business'. I'm sorry, I left overly structured religion to have MORE freedom, not to get bogged down like this.



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I think you picked some good examples for why the chapter was such an eye-roller for me. The celibate marriage to the gods (both the author and the soul sister) just seemed over the top. But again, this may be part of Norse tradition that I'm just not familiar with. Hmmm, I actually think she admits that it's a modern contrivance and there is no evidence for such in history.

Rebecca or Firle, how did this chapter sound for you? It would be interesting to have a differing opinion!
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