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"twould seem someone suggested smudging, to remove bad energy, to the lady who sold us the house. Problem with that method is that it is like using a machine gun to remove squatters. Kind of overkill, that need not be so violent.

Outside, on the surrounding land, deposed spooks lamented their treatment, which means they had been getting revenge for a long while. I dealt with that problem, they won't give us any hassle, and we will leave them in peace, so long as they don't cause annoyance.

Seriously though, only smudge (burn a sage or other herb bunch) if you really can't get the spooks to leave any other way - they will go, with a smudge stick, but not very far, and will do everything they can to cause problems.

I can't tell people that though, they don't believe it, because their grandmother did it every year, and she was ok. (she may have died young with crippling disorder, but that had nothing to do with the regular machine gunning of spirits.)

It all comes down to the people being too clever to help. They know everything and folk like me that have studied for over half a century to get to an expert in the field, don't know anything. Grrrrrrrr.

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Maybe instead of 'smudging' that lady should have tried 'scrubbing' instead! emoticon

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Question! emoticon

muladzh, what do you use smudging for? Or is it really only reserved for severe cases? I just read in sooo many neopagan books to smudge, smudge, smudge. For nearly any reason.
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Smudging is generally used in the non Pagan world to get rid of energies and the draining feelings after a while in a house. Using sage to do this is rather violent - if the energies were intelligent spirits, who are adversely effected by the herb sage - rosemary, oregano, olive leaf and curry leaves do the same violent purge of spirits, that causes pain and discomfort to the spirits. To me that is a no no, as the spirits do not mean anything by their presence - they have no knowledge of ownership, and do not know they should not be there.

Chamomile, Rose and Sandal wood have a beneficial effect on a home - as does the Temple mix of incense - and can, with a chiming bell, gently remove spirits that are annoying in some way. They may be tactile contact, or sounds, but non mean anything harmful, so gentle suggestions of removal are the less violent way to go.

The problem with using the sage and similar herbs is that the spirits are forced away, with no explanation as to why, so they understandably do not go happily. Pain is something they are not used to, and they get a little annoyed - enough in fact to send negative energy at the people who hurt them. They will follow that person to the ends of the earth, sending negativity at them, so health declines and so on. Stopping smudging will do wonders for stopping the negativity.

Unfortunately the neo-pagan authors do not know of the things that are known to the ages old practitioners, and they fear us, so do not ask. Why they fear us I do not know, we offer them no harm at all, but they do not respond. Also unfortunately there are a few teachers of the Neo Pagan ideals that really do not understand the first thing about peaceful interaction between the spirits and the people.

No matter what we modern people think, the spirits have been around a lot longer than we have, and can be very beneficial to all of us, so the new age way of not interacting in a friendly way is causing all of us problems.

Smudge with incense that is not harsh, don't use strong aromatics, and keep the incense handy to use daily - it gives calming energies and doesn't harm anything.

To easily avoid the need to get rid of boisterous spirits, display no entry markers: iron spikes, or long nails close to every corner of your house, and spread a trail of salt around, just once, to activate the iron. This gives a strong signal to the spirits that you don't want them to come uninvited, so they will stay away. Anything then that is felt in the property is just an energy, or maybe a shadow, that does not deserve consideration, and smudging would them be appropriate if you wanted to use it. But, without the iron, I always recommend not smudging..

If you have negative energies or vampiric energies sucking energy out of you, bells and chimes remove that easily, without the aromatics. I keep wind chimes around my home, bells are spread around inside, and we always have incense handy. I get far more energies and spirits around me, because of what I do, and have no trouble with them. They realise I do not want bothering, and go away.

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I have no idea why it went into italics.

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[sign in to see URL] on what you told me earlier [sign in to see URL] what I am reading [sign in to see URL] I did use Sage at my Dad'[sign in to see URL] DID do what I should have, since they refused to 'listen' to my request to at least be quiet during the night, so the humans in the household could get the sleep we needed. When you are being grabbed, tugged, touched, spoken to and yanked on in the middle of the night, it makes it very hard to sleep. For 2 nights, I politely asked them to stop ([sign in to see URL] thought)...the second night I wasn't quite as polite as the first [sign in to see URL] polite, none-the-less. When it still did not stop, I resorted to what I knew. Perhaps I could have done something less offensive, but was not [sign in to see URL] I am. [sign in to see URL] would have done the same thing, eventually, if the less offensive things had not worked. I get extremely testy when I don't get the sleep I [sign in to see URL] spirit or [sign in to see URL] tend to get bitchy with whatever is keeping me from sleeping when I need sleep.

I don't mind a being/spirit in my house as long as they allow the rest of us who also dwell there to do what we need to do for our own survival. Sleep, eat, rest, work, etc. I don't even mind some pranks being played, if done during times we're awake. I've had all the plastic bowls in one cabinet come flying [sign in to see URL] landing a good distance from the cabinet they were in... I got a good laugh over that [sign in to see URL] I fussed about having to wash them since they'd landed on the floor. I've had a plastic clothing hook go flying off a shelf there was NO way possible it could have fallen [sign in to see URL] landed a good 3 feet or so from where it started. I honestly think that was either my Dad or my Uncle. And I know I have at least one spirit in the house [sign in to see URL] kids had an incident the other night with a bag of marshmallows. The spirit is more than [sign in to see URL] they don't bother anyone after everyone is in bed. That is one thing that irks me beyond [sign in to see URL] an entity that wants to keep me awake. I've not had that happen [sign in to see URL] at Dad's, after he [sign in to see URL] it was like the house, all of a sudden.. was a major pitstop on the highway to wherever for spirit activity. At least one of the spirits there knew [sign in to see URL] a female and called me by name. I believe it was the same spirit who grabbed our care-taker by the ankle and asked who he was. Both incidents happened the same night and our caretaker was scared to mention it to me because he didn't know if I believed in spirits or [sign in to see URL] the activity in the house for several nights was outrageous. Neither of us slept for 3 [sign in to see URL] night, due to all the activity, noise, touching, talking, walking, [sign in to see URL] had to do something. I will keep in mind the other herbs that can get them to move on, without harming them, but I won't forego the sage if it's needed. Only if it is truly needed, though.

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I have a beautiful little bell without a handle that I inherited from my grandma. I shall ring it gently through my flat - haven't been sleeping well for weeks, until a few days ago. That's when I picked up the bell and rang it just to hear it chime.

So now I know. emoticon

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emoticon.. Yes, you do. Bells are wonderful.

I have a spook of some sort here with me now - twice the little bugger changed the page I was looking on, on my computer. Techno spirits, whatever next.

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Techno [sign in to see URL] we are in so much trouble! emoticon

Muladzh, thank you for that lesson on Smudging. I've often wondered about it. To me, it always seems rather nasty to "toss a spirit" [sign in to see URL] that was what smudging always seems like to me.

As for the [sign in to see URL] have tiny bells on a lot of things. Wind chimes, window sun catchers, I have bells on barrettes for my [sign in to see URL] my cats have them. emoticon

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I have two smudge sticks, with sage. I asked for them as birthday presents, but someone it never felt right to actually use them.

Instead, I've used gentle incense, maybe twice a year. Guess my instincts are right.

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