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Interesting study: Vegetarians are NOT healthier


Just found this on FB and really wanted to share. It goes with what Muladzh has been saying all along (and what I believed all the time when looking at human biology).

]Study: Vegetarians Less Healthy, Lower Quality Of Life Than Meat-Eaters

I'm not giving up eating meat a few times a week (but not every day). emoticon

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I've always believed that too. Just eat healthy. Try to keep the additives and crap out of your diet. Try to eat as naturally as possible. And only eat till you are just barely full. Don't STUFF, just because you paid for it... emoticon

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Yup.. Vegetarian people are considerably less healthy than non vegetarian people - of course there are some that seem healthy, but age will catch them up. My life long vegetarian sister has something wrong with her, is very worried and people are saying she is dying, but she refuses to tell me what is wrong - because she knows what I think about her ridiculous diet. A mutual friend tells me that her organs are giving up, and the doctor has told her to eat organ meat, or die. I do not know if that is true, but it would fit - if organs are failing, organ meat helps heal them.

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Hey, Muladzh have you done any more research on natural aides for the lungs. Especially the small airways that stop functioning right with [sign in to see URL], emphysema and bronchitis?
I have to see my doc [sign in to see URL] we need to have a serious discussion on this.

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I am trying to validate various supposed treatments, and have had no luck so far - there must be something that will help, I have successfully treated asthma with essential oils, had equal success with clearing airways, with other essential oils, so maybe that is the way for you to go - kind of aromatherapy. Correct me if I am wrong, but it would seem you need something to trigger a clearing of the alveoli?? That would involve some fragrant oil I would think. At that level I cannot think of a herb that would do much. Send me a nice long PM telling me all about the problem, and I will try figure something out for you. I need to know ALL about it.


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I will send you a PM or email after I see the doc today. But I do not feel like there is anything that needs to be expelled from the alveoli. I mostly clear my throat from the [sign in to see URL] of sinus drain.
Only when we have an inversion or exceptionally dusty, smoky air will I feel the need to cough from down [sign in to see URL] then it feels no matter how hard I [sign in to see URL] never clears.
But most of the time, I don't feel the need to cough.
I can tell you that smells or orders, especially that of cleaning supplies and most perfumes or room deodorizers, make my lungs feel like they are literally closing [sign in to see URL] I have to leave the area, breath a few DEEP breaths and I'm fine. So not like an asthmatic attack.
I just can't seem to force enough air in my lungs. Like I constantly need to FORCE a DEEP breath....

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Just thought I would add this here, seeing how here is where I mentioned my doc appointment. Seems they want to make me radio active! emoticon

Just got back from the [sign in to see URL] as simple as I had hoped! Guess they gotta pass me around so everyone gets some insurance money...
She prescribed something different for my lungs. But thinks there may be more going on than in my lungs. My shortness of breath may be cause by my heart not working as it should. My Grandmother (Dad's Mom) and my Dad both had heart issues. Grandma passed away in her sleep. My Dad had a quad by-pass on his.
Needless to say, that was an eye opener. I'm set up to do the Nuclear (Thallium) stress test.(This is what all that intails:
You will have an IV (intravenous line) started.

    A radiopharmaceutical, such as thallium or sestamibi, will be injected into one of your veins.
    You will lie down and wait for between 15 and 45 minutes.
    A special camera will scan your heart and create pictures to show how the radiopharmaceutical has traveled through your blood and into your heart.

Most people will then walk on a treadmill (or pedal on an exercise machine).

    After the treadmill starts moving slowly, you will be asked to walk (or pedal) faster and on an incline. It is like being asked to walk fast or jog up a big hill.
    If you are not able to exercise, your doctor may give you a medicine called a vasodilator, which dilates your heart arteries. Or you may get a medicine that will make your heart beat faster and harder, similar to when you exercise.

Your blood pressure and heart rhythm (ECG) will be watched (monitored) the whole time.

When your heart is working as hard as it can, a radiopharmaceutical is again injected into one of your veins.

    You will wait for 15 to 45 minutes.
    Again, the special camera will scan your heart and create pictures.
    You may be allowed to get up from the table or chair and have a snack or drink.)


I'm also set up (well when the specialist calls) to see another back pain specialist, as well as a podiatrist, about getting a shot in my toe.
[sign in to see URL] is that. Until, I get all the specialist done with, won't know a thing.
But the day is still young and the sun is [sign in to see URL] I may go outside and trim my other roses...



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That sounds logical - but the means to test it sounds really scary. . .

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I'm glad you have a doctor who thinks. And who is aware that problems in one area might not originate there.

Having said that, the test doesn't sound like fun at all! Hope all goes well.

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[sign in to see URL], I know. Hubby wonder's if he pisses me off after the test, if I'll explode.(Nuclear) emoticon


[sign in to see URL] doc is a thinker, and she would not have me doing these tests if she was not certain they would give us a clue or RULE something out. She does not care for stress tests.
But my Grandmother died from a sudden heart attack, and my Father had two attacks and then a quad [sign in to see URL] it kind of runs in the family.

Better safe than sorry...

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