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Is it Ethical??


So how much bad karma will I get if I bubble my 15 year old to keep her out of trouble???

I wrestle with this I do not like doing things against any ones free will but this one is heading for trouble fast.

Her latest trick was to open a myspace account and list her hometown, her place of employment, her school and grade level, and her best friends name and cell number. emoticon Oh, yes I closed the account down big time.

She thinks nothing is going to happen to her. I keep talking and I swear nothing is going into her thick skull. I have showed her the list of registared sex offender that live here 7 is high for a town of only about 300 people. I recorded and play the new cast about myspace. Made her take a drinking and drug class 10 hours worth. Was hiding wine under her bed emoticon

Can I put her in a bubble to protect her from herself. Zap her with a spell to wake her up. I have always wrapped my kids in white light but you can only tant fate so many times. help

This one's pig headed, self absorbed nature is driving me to the edge.

Any magickal or non-magickal advice

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Wow, not sure I'm the person to answer. I have no kids, and I have done very little spellwork -- but I have a feeling that the thought about not doing anything against someone's free will may have exceptions when it comes to your kids. You did close the account and that is good. On the other hand, sometimes I think people just have to walk their own path and learn their own lessons, and anything we do may not make a difference, anyway. (I'm thinking of a particular alchoholic man I went with once. There was NOTHING I could do that was gonna stop this guy from hitting bottom, and there was nothing I could do to raise him up).

Other parents here have any thoughts?

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[sign in to see URL] is NOTHING wrong with protecting your kids. Your karma won't suffer any at all if you do something to put a "bubble" around her. It may well suffer if you DON'T. There is a difference between doing something against someone's own will when it comes to love magic, and such as [sign in to see URL] for [sign in to see URL], there's nothing wrong with wanting to protect your child.

A [sign in to see URL] you know how to make energy [sign in to see URL] one while she's sleeping. Gently place all your love, caring, wisdom and protection within the bubble, and toss it into her room as she [sign in to see URL] you [sign in to see URL] your intent. On her doorknob one day while she's [sign in to see URL] a piece of black string/[sign in to see URL] such, around the inside AND outside of her doorknobs. Nothing that's extremely noticable. Black is a strong protective color against negativity. If you don't want to do it around the [sign in to see URL] some above the door jamb inside and outside the door, and above the window jamb on the inside. Still do the energy ball. [sign in to see URL] do a charm for her. If she has a favorite [sign in to see URL] a charm of that animal, charge it, and give it to her....'just cause I love you', and tell her to carry it with her. Hopefully some of this will help.
If I had known how to do all of this when my kids were teenagers, I may not have had to deal with some of the crap I did have to deal with.
Keep us [sign in to see URL] Many Blessings as you work on this!!

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I like the bubble I use that alot. I was really leaning in the direction of messing with her free will, like zapping her with a mild virus everytime she disobeys me but I opted for a milder one instead.

I have cast a spell asking that someone she will listen to, will come into her life before she gets in trouble. Since then her boss at work and the boss's older son have been getting after her about being more careful.




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a MUCH better resolution than making her [sign in to see URL].

Sometimes someone needs the push to get nosey in someone's life and tell them to watch out. What you did, was put it out there for [sign in to see URL] one person in particular, which was VERY good. I just wish I'd had all this knowledge several years ago. Oh [sign in to see URL] late than never!!

Hope things go well, and she figures it all out before something bad happens. emoticon

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I failed with this spell. My dear darling managed to have not one but two parties, with booze and not beer no half a gallon of tequilla and half a gallon of vodka. Which only 6 teenager drained in two parties. I had to leave town for just 48 hours and that was all it took. Her older sister was checking in since she just lives down the road. She had the darn parties between 2 am and 6 am. She is way to smart for her own good.

I bought her story hook line and sinker about not wanting to miss work and she'd keep an eye on the livestock. Well, at least she did take good care of the stock and house.

She put the empty bottle right on top the recyclables where she knew I see them. Just begging for a fight.

I am so wore out.

Then to make matters worse her friends kept partying for two more days. Seem this was a moving party have found out about 8 house that all had parties most with parent approval over a four day span. Her best friend ended up past out, and raped. She was so drunk she had no clue what this 25 year old had done to her, she is just 15.

My daughter says that it is all my fault if I had not grounded her for the parties she would have been able to protect her friend.

Goddess save this child she has driven me to the point am sick.

I still do not understand these other parents around here they all know what the kids are up to the one even bought the booze for my daughters party and they all act like it nothing.


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Oh no. That's terrible. *hugs*

I have no experience with getting children to see reason - and I suppose it's worst with teenagers. How she can blame you for her friend getting so drunk she didn't even notice getting raped is utterly beyond me. At least your daughter was responsible with your house and the animals. That's a good sign.

I'm sorry that I'm no help. All I can do is to send you lots of hugs and energy.

Take care of yourself, too. *hugs and sends energy*

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Oh Playful!!! How horrible for you to have to come back home to this.

First of [sign in to see URL] [sign in to see URL] [sign in to see URL] NOT ALLOW YOUR DAUGHTER TO PLACE ANY KIND OF BLAME ON YOU!!!!!
If any blame is to be placed, it should be placed on your daughter, and on the parents who provided the booze for the parties. Ground your daughter [sign in to see URL] wanted [sign in to see URL] go for it. Do not allow her any contact outside of school with any of her [sign in to see URL] means NO [sign in to see URL] [sign in to see URL] cell phone if she has [sign in to see URL] sleep [sign in to see URL]! If she wants to be so darned grown up, she has to learn to take her lumps.
Use whatever is available to you to continually remind your daughter of the outcome of these [sign in to see URL]. her friend's rape. [sign in to see URL] is OK to use this to save her, and the others in her group of friends.
It is ok to also use some [sign in to see URL] if you are going to use them, be sure you're willing to follow [sign in to see URL] such as... "You keep this up and I'll be more than happy to have someone from the Sheriff's Department come to the house and have a nice chat with you" OR "Keep it up and you'll find yourself in Military School" OR... "Keep it up and I myself will be happy to call and have you put in Juvie". [sign in to see URL] sure you're willing to go through with the threat. DO NOT make empty threats.
Sometimes spell work just doesn't work if the person we're working on has a very strong personality/will. If it comes to using more human things, such as jail [sign in to see URL] don't be afraid to use it. She's young enough that it won't show up on her record after she's 18.
My middle daughter and I called the Sheriff's Dept. out to talk to my then 7 and 9 year old grandsons. Helped more with the younger one than the older [sign in to see URL] [sign in to see URL] was willing to take whatever help I got. At her age, it may take a little more than a "talking to".
Use whatever you have to use to keep your daughter [sign in to see URL] don't feel bad about it. This is your child, and it's your responsibility to keep her [sign in to see URL] of how you achieve that (outside of abusive stuff of course :P ). Just be sure she knows that if she wants to dance to the music, it's HER responsibility to pay the piper.
I don't know how much this will help.

I'm behind you 100%+++++ You do what you gotta do, [sign in to see URL] don't let her talk you out of it.

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Thanks ladies,

I am against the wall we have had the police out and chat. We have yanked the phone and all activities I even have out of control charges on her so that leaves calling her worker and having her taken in front of juvie and her dad just can't bear that.

I am just very wore out. Just needed to vent a bit. Guess I just play jailer for the next 2 years.

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[sign in to see URL] sounds like she's the one against the wall now. Her dad may have a hard time dealing with [sign in to see URL] he'd have a harder time dealing with a dead child. I am SOO proud of you for doing what you have to do to keep your precious young one safe. It's so hard and I wish I'd have the balls to do this with my middle daughter when she was a teen.
You have done the very best thing you could do for her, and for yourself in the long run. Don't let her make you question yourself now that this decision has been made. Hang in [sign in to see URL] know that beyond a doubt, we're all in there with ya all the way.

Mega hugs hon. Don't forget to breathe!!!

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